Surprised it wasn't on the homepage yet, my X / LinkedIn feed is non stop about it.
I would love to hear from someone who actually played with all the FOMO harnesses / frameworks and actually did a first impression comparison on what to try out (I'm sure it's not even apples to apples) or discovered that it's all marginally better at best from just rolling your own via Claude Code / Codex / Cursor...
- paperclip
- hermes
- pi
- opencode
- openclaw
- nanoclaw
- gastown
- other FOMO framework I missed (not including skill frameworks such as gbrain etc)
Check out Eve (https://eve.new). I saw it here on Hacker News after I decided OpenClaw was too raw for me. Eve is amazing. My theory as to why it's so good is that the founders have a strong background in design -- they met getting their masters in design at UC Berkeley. Their secret sauce is the harness they've constructed IMHO.
Here is what Zach Dive said in the original HN announcement--
Eve is an AI agent harness that runs in an isolated Linux sandbox (2 vCPUs, 4GB RAM, 10GB disk) with a real filesystem, headless Chromium, code execution, and connectors to 1000+ services.
You give it a task and it works in the background until it's done.
I built this because I wanted OpenClaw without the self-hosting, pointed at actual day-to-day work. I'm thinking less personal assistant and more helpful colleague.
The main interface is a web app where you can watch work happen in real time (agents spawning, files being written, use of the CLI). There's also an iMessage integration so you can fire a task asynchronously, put your phone down, and get a reply when it's finished.
Under the hood, there's an orchestrator (Claude Opus 4.6) that routes to the right domain-specific model for each subtask: browsing, coding, research, and media generation.
For complex tasks it spins up parallel sub-agents that coordinate through the shared filesystem. They have persistent memory across sessions so context compounds over time.
I've packaged it with a bunch of pre-installed skills so it can execute in a variety of job roles (sales, marketing, finance) at runtime.
This was not a pleasant experience to register with and evaluate. Nowhere is a Linux-deployable harness mentioned. It seems to be a Perplexity-like offering.
On top of that, users logging in with Google OIDC cannot delete their accounts. Eve asks for the login password to confirm account deletion. Broken.
OpenCode seemed perfectly workable as a programming assistant. As personal assistants, they all fall short. It's too difficult to really shape their output.
I was briefly impressed with OpenClaw a few times, but ultimately was turned off by not being able to get the models to stop being so damnably verbose. I thought I made progress for a while by having it tweak its soul, iterate, switch models, iterate, switch models, fuse the results, iterate... but ultimately it's all forgotten early in each session. And then one day it killed itself by rebuilding the container it was inside.
Hermes apparently has some plagiarism issues they're trying to cover up [0] and I was deeply unimpressed with their janky, flickery CLI that force-enables a bulky obnoxious header on every launch. Hermes did readily dive into its own source code and did readily confirm that there was no way to disable it. So that's neat. It constantly (wants to) run from upstream master which is unsettling.
Nanoclaw and nanobot seemed fine, but not notably different. There were some common bugs and glitches that caused some minor data loss while configuring nanobot. After that I just deciding to start hacking my own together.
What I really want in a harness is being able to actually control and rewrite the entire context window, like Zed's Text Threads before they obnoxiously and inexplicably removed what, to me, was their most powerful and distinguishing feature.
The timeline here is pretty telling and it looks like Hermes basically points their coding agent at evolver and says "reimplement this yourself." A few days later Hermes magically sports a nearly identical feature.
I don't really see how Pi is a FOMO framework. It's basically the minimal surface area framework for you to build other things on. I'm building some agent powered applications and I would have no ability to do that reliably on Claude Code/codex/cursor because they lack the integration depth I need, that Pi provides.
Hermes is more general purpose, like openclaw. Pi and opencode are more specific to coding.
Hermes accomodates other coding agents pretty well and has in fact bundled skills for claude code and codex (for spawning subagents, delegating, etc.). They are not exclusive
I haven't tried these 'agent fleet' frameworks in depth and am not sure yet they are not just a gimmick. Both openclaw and hermes handle multi-agennt orchestration, fwiw. Gas town looks like a silly way to burn all your tokens in a day. Paperclip is just buggy. I'm waiting for them to become more mature
> This is an independent information website about Hermes Agent, an open-source autonomous AI agent by Nous Research. We are not affiliated with Nous Research or any other organization referenced on this site.
Telegram makes it very easy to create a bot. Other systems are either inconvenient or actively hostile to new bots, especially if you're not a well-known business.
Surprised it wasn't on the homepage yet, my X / LinkedIn feed is non stop about it.
I would love to hear from someone who actually played with all the FOMO harnesses / frameworks and actually did a first impression comparison on what to try out (I'm sure it's not even apples to apples) or discovered that it's all marginally better at best from just rolling your own via Claude Code / Codex / Cursor...
- paperclip
- hermes
- pi
- opencode
- openclaw
- nanoclaw
- gastown
- other FOMO framework I missed (not including skill frameworks such as gbrain etc)
Check out Eve (https://eve.new). I saw it here on Hacker News after I decided OpenClaw was too raw for me. Eve is amazing. My theory as to why it's so good is that the founders have a strong background in design -- they met getting their masters in design at UC Berkeley. Their secret sauce is the harness they've constructed IMHO.
Here is what Zach Dive said in the original HN announcement--
Eve is an AI agent harness that runs in an isolated Linux sandbox (2 vCPUs, 4GB RAM, 10GB disk) with a real filesystem, headless Chromium, code execution, and connectors to 1000+ services.
You give it a task and it works in the background until it's done.
I built this because I wanted OpenClaw without the self-hosting, pointed at actual day-to-day work. I'm thinking less personal assistant and more helpful colleague.
The main interface is a web app where you can watch work happen in real time (agents spawning, files being written, use of the CLI). There's also an iMessage integration so you can fire a task asynchronously, put your phone down, and get a reply when it's finished.
Under the hood, there's an orchestrator (Claude Opus 4.6) that routes to the right domain-specific model for each subtask: browsing, coding, research, and media generation.
For complex tasks it spins up parallel sub-agents that coordinate through the shared filesystem. They have persistent memory across sessions so context compounds over time.
I've packaged it with a bunch of pre-installed skills so it can execute in a variety of job roles (sales, marketing, finance) at runtime.
This was not a pleasant experience to register with and evaluate. Nowhere is a Linux-deployable harness mentioned. It seems to be a Perplexity-like offering.
On top of that, users logging in with Google OIDC cannot delete their accounts. Eve asks for the login password to confirm account deletion. Broken.
> Check out Eve (https://eve.new).
> Continue with Google/Email
Seems very different from the other listed options in parent's comment if you need an online account with Eve to even use it.
OpenCode seemed perfectly workable as a programming assistant. As personal assistants, they all fall short. It's too difficult to really shape their output.
I was briefly impressed with OpenClaw a few times, but ultimately was turned off by not being able to get the models to stop being so damnably verbose. I thought I made progress for a while by having it tweak its soul, iterate, switch models, iterate, switch models, fuse the results, iterate... but ultimately it's all forgotten early in each session. And then one day it killed itself by rebuilding the container it was inside.
Hermes apparently has some plagiarism issues they're trying to cover up [0] and I was deeply unimpressed with their janky, flickery CLI that force-enables a bulky obnoxious header on every launch. Hermes did readily dive into its own source code and did readily confirm that there was no way to disable it. So that's neat. It constantly (wants to) run from upstream master which is unsettling.
Nanoclaw and nanobot seemed fine, but not notably different. There were some common bugs and glitches that caused some minor data loss while configuring nanobot. After that I just deciding to start hacking my own together.
What I really want in a harness is being able to actually control and rewrite the entire context window, like Zed's Text Threads before they obnoxiously and inexplicably removed what, to me, was their most powerful and distinguishing feature.
[0] https://github.com/NousResearch/hermes-agent/issues/10232
The project in question that is asserting Hermes is copying their ideas:
https://github.com/EvoMap/evolver
The timeline here is pretty telling and it looks like Hermes basically points their coding agent at evolver and says "reimplement this yourself." A few days later Hermes magically sports a nearly identical feature.
https://evomap.ai/blog/hermes-agent-evolver-similarity-analy...
I don't really see how Pi is a FOMO framework. It's basically the minimal surface area framework for you to build other things on. I'm building some agent powered applications and I would have no ability to do that reliably on Claude Code/codex/cursor because they lack the integration depth I need, that Pi provides.
Pi and OpenCode are Claude Code-alikes. Hermes and *claw try to be somewhat more autonomous.
Hermes is more general purpose, like openclaw. Pi and opencode are more specific to coding.
Hermes accomodates other coding agents pretty well and has in fact bundled skills for claude code and codex (for spawning subagents, delegating, etc.). They are not exclusive
I haven't tried these 'agent fleet' frameworks in depth and am not sure yet they are not just a gimmick. Both openclaw and hermes handle multi-agennt orchestration, fwiw. Gas town looks like a silly way to burn all your tokens in a day. Paperclip is just buggy. I'm waiting for them to become more mature
you can add netclaw to your list
> persistent memory
* looks inside *
MEMORY.md
https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/docs/user-guide/featur...
This submission's reference URL is not affiliated with Nous Research
What happened to the Mila Jovovich mind palace thing?
It was purely a hype/media play.
I wonder why this new page exists, isn't this the same thing? https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/
Actually until the team comments, this page seems suspect. Why is the domain not in nousresearch.com?
> This is an independent information website about Hermes Agent, an open-source autonomous AI agent by Nous Research. We are not affiliated with Nous Research or any other organization referenced on this site.
https://hermes-agent.org/terms-of-service/
Oh hell no. "Let me steal your secret keys" basically. This submission should be removed.
What? This is just a documentation site. Everything points to the official repo/resources.
Why do these AI agents keep using Telegram as their channel for user communication?
Telegram is literally a spying platform run by the FSB?
Telegram makes it very easy to create a bot. Other systems are either inconvenient or actively hostile to new bots, especially if you're not a well-known business.
Have you tried setting up a bot for something like WhatsApp? I'd much rather use a KGB spy platform with actual user ergonomics.
What's wrong with having a website where you scan a QR code, and have your own private chat, and it sends notifications using, say, Web Push?
Are “AI agents” the next “frameworks” in the AI age?
"Agents" or "harnesses". We are already there. There are many already. I have my own that I started working on like a year ago.