I can deal with a launch problem. I am looking forward to being able to check it out. I stopped coming to HN as often as I used to because there has been too much AI talk. It's like a dang AI subreddit. I don't want anything to do with AI. I have lost 2 jobs to AI budgets and stupid executive decisions. It's no longer part of my personal and professional life.
I agree with you, but haven't really left yet since there's still a good amount of discourse outside AI related topics. Seems a significant amount of contributors here are all to eager to fall over themselves putting themselves, their juniors, children, and colleagues out of work, long term.
73% of users vote prior to reading TFA, according to this research. (I am sometimes guilty of this myself)
We live in a world being dimished by confirmation bias, but this isn't a new thing. Those who wrote/approved the headlines always had more power than those who wrote the articles.
I got a partial load and what it looks like it does is just search each submission for a list of key words and discards any that hits, so it would discard this submission.
I was not suggesting that it would be a false positive, I was suggesting that this will filter out many submissions that would be of interest to those that want less AI on HN. This would flag a blog that has nothing to do with AI if some random person mentioned AI in the comments of that blog post, right?
I built (well, vibe-coded) a version of this a while back that runs against the Hacker News API, it's static HTML on GitHub Pages so I don't have to run a server for it: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered
Immediately I started thinking how nice it would be to use natural language to have LLMs generate a deterministic filter for stories matching content I DO care about, filtered from New. Instead of filtering it out.
I have an app that does Hacker News with AI; it analyses all the stories and comments for a number of criteria, and tags them so you can skip stuff you don't want to see. I should get around to actually publishing it but I've been lazy.
One of the fun things I noticed is the psychological impact of framing. A comment that might've made you feel the need to reply before has less emotional weight if it's highlighted in red and a diminished font. Same thing for stories; if you would normally disagree with a story and it would make you want to comment, you feel less like commenting if the story is rated as 'lacking evidence', 'unsupported by research', 'personal anecdotes only', etc. It drives down the feeling of needing to engage. Which is horrible for site engagement, but good for mental health (I think).
I've been thinking of making something like this for myself for quite a while now, glad I'm not the only one who had the idea and someone actually did it before I got to it
I can deal with a launch problem. I am looking forward to being able to check it out. I stopped coming to HN as often as I used to because there has been too much AI talk. It's like a dang AI subreddit. I don't want anything to do with AI. I have lost 2 jobs to AI budgets and stupid executive decisions. It's no longer part of my personal and professional life.
I hope it works out.
I agree with you, but haven't really left yet since there's still a good amount of discourse outside AI related topics. Seems a significant amount of contributors here are all to eager to fall over themselves putting themselves, their juniors, children, and colleagues out of work, long term.
I've been training to naturally ignore AI mentions that I thought this entry was about some HN ui font change (Sans).
Was about to write the same
Interesting this keeps moving up the front page when the site is inaccessible because it's hosted on a baked potato.
Yep. My single core Proxmox machine sitting in my living room with horrible cache invalidation is struggling.
Sounds like a great use case for serving plain HTTP over cloudflare tunnel. Why terminate TLS when you don't have to?
You know what's funny? Most of this site is exactly that. The _one_ time I do something dynamic…
73% of users vote prior to reading TFA, according to this research. (I am sometimes guilty of this myself)
We live in a world being dimished by confirmation bias, but this isn't a new thing. Those who wrote/approved the headlines always had more power than those who wrote the articles.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315096490_Consumers...
edit: disclaimer, no hate on TFA. Just responding to the comment.
This submission should be studied by people holding clipboards. It needs a follow-up:
"How I made it to the top of HN with zero content beyond a catchy title"
It further proves the key to getting your stuff on HN is not to post interesting content, it's to post something that sounds interesting.
D1 hater right here.
Huh, I didn't even remember to vote for posts, i just scroll down to read (and vote sometimes on comments)
Just goes to show how much demand there is.
HN really needs a containment board.
I'm curious to find out if they're using a model to detect AI content. I'd be more amused than disappointed. But, alas, potato.
I got a partial load and what it looks like it does is just search each submission for a list of key words and discards any that hits, so it would discard this submission.
I would argue that in a small way, this post _is_ about AI, so it wouldn't be a false positive.
I was not suggesting that it would be a false positive, I was suggesting that this will filter out many submissions that would be of interest to those that want less AI on HN. This would flag a blog that has nothing to do with AI if some random person mentioned AI in the comments of that blog post, right?
It's not an LLM.
Why use big program when regex do trick?
You can get the best of both worlds with a small embedding model
Show me an embedding model that runs as fast as an optimized regex engine and I'll buy you a beer.
But I like using em-dashes?
Master of efficiency
Love this. Really nice to see a HN front page without AI, the fatigue is real.
I built (well, vibe-coded) a version of this a while back that runs against the Hacker News API, it's static HTML on GitHub Pages so I don't have to run a server for it: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered
How often do you use it?
Immediately I started thinking how nice it would be to use natural language to have LLMs generate a deterministic filter for stories matching content I DO care about, filtered from New. Instead of filtering it out.
I don't use it myself. I built it for a Hacker News thread where someone else was saying "I wish I could browse Hacker News without all the AI stuff".
interesting but i rarely use any HN reader
there's just something about this UI and its consistency
I also don't mind all the AI related news
If anything I just wish they had a mute/block button. its not fun when somebody is stalking you replying to every comment you make.
I have an app that does Hacker News with AI; it analyses all the stories and comments for a number of criteria, and tags them so you can skip stuff you don't want to see. I should get around to actually publishing it but I've been lazy.
One of the fun things I noticed is the psychological impact of framing. A comment that might've made you feel the need to reply before has less emotional weight if it's highlighted in red and a diminished font. Same thing for stories; if you would normally disagree with a story and it would make you want to comment, you feel less like commenting if the story is rated as 'lacking evidence', 'unsupported by research', 'personal anecdotes only', etc. It drives down the feeling of needing to engage. Which is horrible for site engagement, but good for mental health (I think).
I've been thinking of making something like this for myself for quite a while now, glad I'm not the only one who had the idea and someone actually did it before I got to it
For one sec, I got excited for a new font!
The filter doesn't appear to be perfect, one of the top posts right now is "My Agent Skill for Test-Driven Development"
I guess they could run the titles through a (flash) LLM to catch ones were keyword detection won't cut it.
Have to love the irony. :)
That should be fixed as soon as my server has a chance to catch up.
Are you using AI to figure out what's about what's AI and what's not?
Was hoping it was a new font.
Hopefully fixed the cache invalidation. I'm crossing my fingers.
Hug of death?
yep. standby
A lot of demand for ‘Sans AI’ :)
Probably by bots :)
Our AI overlords don't want an AI-free Hacker News
Yes, please. A general-purpose filter like the one on 4chan would also work.
A problem is it doesn't load as fast. Could it be helped?
Yes, it can. I am having a major cache invalidation problem. One of the major blights of programmers everywhere.
I've been thinking the same. Couldn't this be done with a browser extension that hides elements that matches a regex?