What I've found is that cities that are run by statist Democrats will do any trick they can to obfuscate and hide as much data as they can, under any law or ruling they feel appropriate for. Data should be open and transparent? Both parties are against that, but its the Democrats who'll deceive and confuse, and still not open data.
We saw this with NYC before Mamdani.
Ive seen this play out anywhere that FLOCK is being challenged.
It's not a coincidence. More crime means more votes. Create the problem and sell you the solution that's just out of reach. "$NEW_GUY's plan will take effect immediately after election. He will work tirelessly to solve $PROBLEM (we created), unlike $BAD_GUY (who promised the same thing 4 years ago), whose tired old policies are no good for $GEOGRAPHIC_AREA. Vote smart, vote $GOOD_GUY $YEAR. Paid for by the committee to elect $GOOD_GUY."
spotcrime.com seems to be one of those sensationalist media spreading paranoia. there are so many people wrongly believing cities to be dangerous, per-neighbourhood tracking can not be helping people's fears
Spotcrime just allows you to sign up for email alerts to crime nearby an address of your choosing.
I am generally of the mind even if it results in negative externalities, knowledge is good. So even if it on average increases fear of crime, knowing the reported crime nearby your home is a good thing.
The quality of the data matters. Over-policed minority neighborhoods don't provide the quality of data that supports rational decision-making. LA has a lot of problems with quality of policing.
"knowledge is good" is such a naive take. Trivial example: You only have knowledge of crimes committed by immigrants but zero knowledge of crimes committed by citizens. How is that good?
So, continue this train of thought - If only partial data is available, then no data should be available because the partial data might induce incorrect assumptions in the general populace.
Apply this to:
Vaccination / disease management
Housing availability ("if they only know of these areas, will those areas become swamped and drive up prices?")
Price of drugs / medical services, or even medical test results (how many more suicides "might" occur if someone gets a possible cancer diagnosis)
Climate change
or anything else.
I think you'll find you're quickly concentrating knowledge dissemination into a central authority who decides what is "right" and that is much more dangerous than incomplete information.
We're not talking about "partial data." We're talking about tendentious data that propagates existing known bias, produced by brutal problematic low quality policing. At the very least, people making apps based on crime location data need to acknowledge and flag such problems and inform their users of the dubiousness of LAPD and LASD data.
Surveillance tech and cop tech generally don't contribute to society because of these problems.
If you wouldn't trust RFK Jr. about vaccines, you should also be skeptical about what many PDs tell you. LAPD is just a particularly notorious example.
I just tried this site on my phone and it has an extremely ad invasive experience.
Is this how the citizen app also gets its data?
What I've found is that cities that are run by statist Democrats will do any trick they can to obfuscate and hide as much data as they can, under any law or ruling they feel appropriate for. Data should be open and transparent? Both parties are against that, but its the Democrats who'll deceive and confuse, and still not open data.
We saw this with NYC before Mamdani.
Ive seen this play out anywhere that FLOCK is being challenged.
And, well, LA.
It's not a coincidence. More crime means more votes. Create the problem and sell you the solution that's just out of reach. "$NEW_GUY's plan will take effect immediately after election. He will work tirelessly to solve $PROBLEM (we created), unlike $BAD_GUY (who promised the same thing 4 years ago), whose tired old policies are no good for $GEOGRAPHIC_AREA. Vote smart, vote $GOOD_GUY $YEAR. Paid for by the committee to elect $GOOD_GUY."
sounds like a positive
spotcrime.com seems to be one of those sensationalist media spreading paranoia. there are so many people wrongly believing cities to be dangerous, per-neighbourhood tracking can not be helping people's fears
Spotcrime just allows you to sign up for email alerts to crime nearby an address of your choosing.
I am generally of the mind even if it results in negative externalities, knowledge is good. So even if it on average increases fear of crime, knowing the reported crime nearby your home is a good thing.
The quality of the data matters. Over-policed minority neighborhoods don't provide the quality of data that supports rational decision-making. LA has a lot of problems with quality of policing.
"knowledge is good" is such a naive take. Trivial example: You only have knowledge of crimes committed by immigrants but zero knowledge of crimes committed by citizens. How is that good?
So, continue this train of thought - If only partial data is available, then no data should be available because the partial data might induce incorrect assumptions in the general populace.
Apply this to:
Vaccination / disease management
Housing availability ("if they only know of these areas, will those areas become swamped and drive up prices?")
Price of drugs / medical services, or even medical test results (how many more suicides "might" occur if someone gets a possible cancer diagnosis)
Climate change
or anything else.
I think you'll find you're quickly concentrating knowledge dissemination into a central authority who decides what is "right" and that is much more dangerous than incomplete information.
We're not talking about "partial data." We're talking about tendentious data that propagates existing known bias, produced by brutal problematic low quality policing. At the very least, people making apps based on crime location data need to acknowledge and flag such problems and inform their users of the dubiousness of LAPD and LASD data.
Surveillance tech and cop tech generally don't contribute to society because of these problems.
If you wouldn't trust RFK Jr. about vaccines, you should also be skeptical about what many PDs tell you. LAPD is just a particularly notorious example.