I like the point about not doing a terrible thing not being enough if I am passively tolerating other people doing terrible things around me. We are all complicit by either active participation in evil or by inaction. Factory farming is evil, there's no argument about that. And it's industrial-scale evil: billions of conscious creatures living their worst possible lives. And there is no argument about them being conscious too: anybody who's ever owned a pet knows that these creatures have rich emotional lives, personalities, fears and joys. And it's not a necessary evil too - there is plenty of protein and calories without meat.
So true. One of the smartest animals being treated in the worst possible way. You can't even justify it with some nutritional or health argument - there's nothing essential in pork that humans can't get from other sources. It's cruelty and torture that's happening out of habit, out of people being stubborn and not wanting to go without a taste they're familiar with.
> The [Save Our Bacon] Act would stop any state or locality from regulating the sale of meat based on how it’s produced in another state.
Interesting to think about this adjacent to the current availability of mifespristone by mail debate. They're not identical, but to what extent do the laws of one state impact the lives of those who reside in another?
"Furthermore, vegetarianism, though morally laudable, has an obvious economic limitation — when one person refuses to eat meat, it lowers the price of meat for everyone else"
I very much doubt that, I think the opposite is happening in the long term because of economies of scale.
So go ahead, become vegan! You already know you should!
I have so much hope for lab grown meat and animal byproducts, but between opposition to "gmos" and agricultural lobbying, I think it will take a century before it's the norm.
If this topic interests you, I recommend reading “Animal Liberation” by the philosopher Peter Singer.
I discovered it during my philosophy classes at university, and eventually became vegetarian as a result of this about 15 years ago.
Honestly at this point I can’t remember the details of the book, only that it had enough of an impact to stop me eating meat.
I like the point about not doing a terrible thing not being enough if I am passively tolerating other people doing terrible things around me. We are all complicit by either active participation in evil or by inaction. Factory farming is evil, there's no argument about that. And it's industrial-scale evil: billions of conscious creatures living their worst possible lives. And there is no argument about them being conscious too: anybody who's ever owned a pet knows that these creatures have rich emotional lives, personalities, fears and joys. And it's not a necessary evil too - there is plenty of protein and calories without meat.
So true. One of the smartest animals being treated in the worst possible way. You can't even justify it with some nutritional or health argument - there's nothing essential in pork that humans can't get from other sources. It's cruelty and torture that's happening out of habit, out of people being stubborn and not wanting to go without a taste they're familiar with.
Always has been.
> The [Save Our Bacon] Act would stop any state or locality from regulating the sale of meat based on how it’s produced in another state.
Interesting to think about this adjacent to the current availability of mifespristone by mail debate. They're not identical, but to what extent do the laws of one state impact the lives of those who reside in another?
"Furthermore, vegetarianism, though morally laudable, has an obvious economic limitation — when one person refuses to eat meat, it lowers the price of meat for everyone else"
I very much doubt that, I think the opposite is happening in the long term because of economies of scale.
So go ahead, become vegan! You already know you should!
I have so much hope for lab grown meat and animal byproducts, but between opposition to "gmos" and agricultural lobbying, I think it will take a century before it's the norm.
State's rights, amirite
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