Whether or not Flock employees are child predators or not, the crux of the issue lies in the third parties Flock allows access to these cameras. For a link to their actual blog post where they make this comment: https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/understanding-flocks-testin...
Where is that? Are they banned, or just haven't reached you yet?
As dumb as it is that we've invited a corporation to spy with government approval, I suspect that less formal but still ubiquitous surveillance is coming for you, too, unless your government actively prevents it.
We Americans are easily terrified. It just takes a little eyebrow-waggling to suggest that the criminals are easily identified by the color of their skin, so that you're safe from any tactics used to suppress them.
We used to think of ourselves as gradually getting better. Turns out that all that accomplished was to encourage resentment, and we finally got tired of pretending otherwise. I dunno if we can ever get back the illusion of improvement, since it will be clear for a very long time just how powerful the urge to cower is. I hope it's soon enough for you to come visit some day, because we do also have a lot of virtues, but for the moment it's not safe for the inhabitants, much less the strangers.
A lot of people seem to attribute voter decisions they don't like with != democracy. I don't think people realize that democracies can also be surveillance police state dystopias if that's what the people vote for. It doesn't make it less of a democracy
> “Accusing someone of spying on children is not a policy disagreement; it is a life-altering allegation.” - flock
“life altering”? Oh so like a women and her kids being held at gun point while face down on the hot tarmac of a parking lot cause your stupid ai cameras got the wrong car.
Pretty amazing they’re framing it as an “accusation,” when there’s access logs obtained via FOIA request that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were spying on children.
I hate to say it, but Jewish organizations get threats all the time. Just yesterday I was at a temple that removed its "reserved for Rabbi" parking space, because he had been threatened and didn't want to make identification easier.
An explanation rather than an excuse. But it's not entirely surprising that they would sign up for a service that might help them catch offenders.
You can just say Israel. Unless you're trying to imply all Jewish people. You do not have to be Jewish to be a citizen of Israel - there are even Muslim citizens.
it's no surprise that the pedophile surveillance company is working with the pedophile presidential administration, what does this company want? a thank you for spying on kids
Whether or not Flock employees are child predators or not, the crux of the issue lies in the third parties Flock allows access to these cameras. For a link to their actual blog post where they make this comment: https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/understanding-flocks-testin...
(The terrorist allegations are from an interview December of last year https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46357850 )
Happy to life in a country where AI cameras are not a thing.
Where is that? Are they banned, or just haven't reached you yet?
As dumb as it is that we've invited a corporation to spy with government approval, I suspect that less formal but still ubiquitous surveillance is coming for you, too, unless your government actively prevents it.
Yes... me too. It is called a democratic country, where citizens value the environment created around them by their government.
That is NOT what the USA is, at the moment. Very happy not to live there, or go there in any capacity.
We Americans are easily terrified. It just takes a little eyebrow-waggling to suggest that the criminals are easily identified by the color of their skin, so that you're safe from any tactics used to suppress them.
We used to think of ourselves as gradually getting better. Turns out that all that accomplished was to encourage resentment, and we finally got tired of pretending otherwise. I dunno if we can ever get back the illusion of improvement, since it will be clear for a very long time just how powerful the urge to cower is. I hope it's soon enough for you to come visit some day, because we do also have a lot of virtues, but for the moment it's not safe for the inhabitants, much less the strangers.
Yes, in his texts Cleisthenes was pretty clear that AI cameras weren't acceptable in a democracy.
A lot of people seem to attribute voter decisions they don't like with != democracy. I don't think people realize that democracies can also be surveillance police state dystopias if that's what the people vote for. It doesn't make it less of a democracy
I'm not from the US, so I hope you excuse my ignorance, but who exactly voted for mass surveillance or AI cameras?
No Democracy has voters vote on every position, they elect representatives who act on a number of policies and aims.
It’s a democracy when people vote for what I want.
> “Accusing someone of spying on children is not a policy disagreement; it is a life-altering allegation.” - flock
“life altering”? Oh so like a women and her kids being held at gun point while face down on the hot tarmac of a parking lot cause your stupid ai cameras got the wrong car.
Pretty amazing they’re framing it as an “accusation,” when there’s access logs obtained via FOIA request that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were spying on children.
Whats worse is the town has snubbed its residents:
https://www.axios.com/local/atlanta/2026/04/17/dunwoody-floc...
How did a Jewish Community Center end up allowing FLOCK to access its security cameras?
Pool and Gymnastics seem like sensitive places unless PEDO.
I hate to say it, but Jewish organizations get threats all the time. Just yesterday I was at a temple that removed its "reserved for Rabbi" parking space, because he had been threatened and didn't want to make identification easier.
An explanation rather than an excuse. But it's not entirely surprising that they would sign up for a service that might help them catch offenders.
I hate to say it but there's growing anger at Jewish institutions because the Jewish nation is murdering brown people en masse in a Holy war.
An explanation, rather than an excuse, but it's not surprising when Biblically it's an eye for an eye...
Jesus, exhausting rhetoric
> Jewish nation
You can just say Israel. Unless you're trying to imply all Jewish people. You do not have to be Jewish to be a citizen of Israel - there are even Muslim citizens.
I don’t know why they don’t like being accused of spying on children when they seem to be doing everything they can to spy on children.
it's no surprise that the pedophile surveillance company is working with the pedophile presidential administration, what does this company want? a thank you for spying on kids