I lived my whole life in the twin cities and have a lot of friends, US citizens, who are too scared to go out to eat right now because of the ICE raids. If that wasn’t the point it is certainly the effect. I applaud Walz and Frey, and I will be ranking Frey first next time he’s up for reelection. Something tells me though he will be on to bigger things than mayor of Minneapolis.
Why are you scared of ICE if you are an American citizen? If you are going to vote for Frey in reelection, than you likely in favor of the current frauds going on in Minnesota.
The allegations of fraud made by the people invading my home and terrorizing my friends? I’ll take those with a grain of salt.
And for the record, I’m not afraid of ICE, never said I was. ICE is racially profiling people, arresting them without cause, and deporting them without due process. I happen to be white, so that doesn’t apply in my case. It’s also coincidentally the same reason I feel safe posting a comment like this online. Free speech is being chilled in communities that ice targets, and I feel responsibility to relay what I’m hearing.
ICE also just gunned down a US citizen in the street, and that should scare everyone.
> ICE just gunned down a US citizen in the street though, and that should scare everyone
You make it sound like they executed someone for no reason whatsoever, like the iranian regime just executed 2 000 to 12 000 people in the last few days.
ICE shot someone who wasn't complying with several orders to stop her vehicle, to open her door, while her wife was yelling "go baby go" after having taunted the agents saying "what you gonna do now big boy?".
Definitely doesn't warrant shooting someone but not the smartest thing to do either when armed officials are ordering you to stop.
Now hitting the gas pedal and hitting an agent with your big fat SUV: definitely even less smart than the "what you gonna do now big boy?" and the "go baby go" parts.
You see ICE agents executing in cold blood one US citizen: that's your take on it. My take after seeing the vid from different angle is very different.
A similar story happened in France not long ago: a 17 y/o was illegally (it's illegal to drive a car in France a 17) driving a 400 bhp Mercedes AMG in polish license plate, overtaking traffic on a bus lane and he refused to comply with policemen ordering him to stop. He hit the policeman and got shot.
And socialist France made that drug-dealer, driving a 400 bhp Mercedes AMG at 17 y/o, overtaking the community in a lane dedicated to buses, who already had 15+ prior arrests, an angel.
It's basically the same story: the left using anything it can to create martyrs to push its leftist agenda.
Other see ICE agents have already deported 600 000 illegals which lead to 2 million of illegals self-deporting and, for moving 2.5m+ people, it mostly all went fine.
What is the US to do with the 20m+ illegals still in the country? Ask them all to vote in states that do not require voter ID so that the dems can win again? So that they can open the borders again to millions and millions of illegals?
Your point of view, in your HN echo chamber, is that you're all the white knights. But you're only self-righteous.
> ICE shot someone who wasn't complying with several orders to stop her vehicle, to open her door,
The first one ordered her to leave, the next one told her to get out of her vehicle and reached into her vehicle without a warrent or justification.
Neither had any legal grounds for doing so, at least according to a civil rights lawyer who defended MAGA people deplatformed during the Biden administration.
Traffic enforcement is not within ICE's remit, particularly in this case when wide angle footage with long time frames show traffic passing both cars that are across a single lane.
> Now hitting the gas pedal and hitting an agent with your big fat SUV:
Perhaps avoid the false hyperbole.
> It's basically the same story: the left using anything it can to create martyrs
The "martyrs" are being created by the incompentance and over reach of ICE.
Your question is essentially equivalent to "Why are you scared of the Gestapo if you aren't a Jew?"
It's not a coincidence that a winner of the Nobel Prize gifted his medal to the then Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels[1], exactly as María Corina Machado gifted her Nobel medal to Trump. History doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme. If you close your eyes to all these similarities, you're going to be in for a big surprise.
Also this topic is not about a guy who is in the Epstein files, this is about deporting illegal immigrants and keeping the United States safe. Because there are few ICE agents doing things that an untrained cop does, it doesn't apply to all ICE agents.
The woman who got shot thought she was on a movie set, tried to act cool and then attempted to run over an officer.
Also the guy who said 'Illegal immigrants contribute more than an average American citizen' I laughed my ass off while reading your comment.
For the other comment, you can check yourself if you don't believe in fraud. All the documents are accessible thanks to Tim Berners-Lee, the fraud is still active and if there is a nanometer of evidence that your tax money goes to the Somali immigrants' bank account, you need to investigate that.
By the way, Obama deported 3 million immigrants with ICE while he is president but Trump only 900k.
Currently going on? You mean the ones which were prosecuted a few years ago? Or are you talking about that "journalist"'s YouTube video that was hyped by the government to cause misinformed rage?
> The subpoenas suggest that the Justice Department is examining whether Walz’s and Frey’s public statements disparaging the surge of officers and federal actions have amounted to criminal interference in law enforcement work.
The Justice department is literally arguing that free speech is enough to impede an investigation.
This will surely be shot down in court, but this is just all noise to try to interfere in MN's midterm elections.
I understand people not wanting to follow the news lately and the inclination in just tuning it out. But some things you can't tune out because by tuning it out the conditions of the world can deteriorate from our complacency.
How sad is it to see the US position as a leader building alliances completely fall apart under the current administration? Pretty heartbreaking. The news today about sums up the disappointment.
"Prime Minister Mark Carney, speaking to reporters in Beijing on Friday after making a preliminary deal with China on a range of issues, said Canada’s relationship with the U.S. is 'more multi-faceted' and much deeper than Canada's relationship with China — but noted that ties with China have become more predictable in recent months."
He that claimed weaponization of the DOJ is eager to weaponize it [0]
Pure projection, 100% of the time.
> Trump Is Weaponizing the DOJ Just Like He Accused Democrats of Doing
> Throughout the 2024 presidential campaign season, Donald Trump accused his Democratic opponents—President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris—of using the levers of power against him.
> "The Biden regime's weaponization of our system of justice is straight out of the Stalinist Russia horror show," he told rallygoers in March 2023 after being indicted in Manhattan for violating election law. In a September 2024 debate against Harris, Trump even blamed Democrats' rhetoric for the assassination attempt he survived weeks earlier, saying "I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me."
> But now that Trump is firmly ensconced back in office, his administration seems to have no interest in stopping government weaponization. Rather, it seems keen to wield that power for itself. Looking back now on Trump's complaints, it appears less that he was upset than that he was jealous.
Just for the record. 34 felony convictions and adjudicated rape.
I'd love to know who downvoted the above comment and why. No-one who believes that democracy in the US is worth preserving can possibly support what's going on at the moment.
I lived my whole life in the twin cities and have a lot of friends, US citizens, who are too scared to go out to eat right now because of the ICE raids. If that wasn’t the point it is certainly the effect. I applaud Walz and Frey, and I will be ranking Frey first next time he’s up for reelection. Something tells me though he will be on to bigger things than mayor of Minneapolis.
Why are you scared of ICE if you are an American citizen? If you are going to vote for Frey in reelection, than you likely in favor of the current frauds going on in Minnesota.
The allegations of fraud made by the people invading my home and terrorizing my friends? I’ll take those with a grain of salt.
And for the record, I’m not afraid of ICE, never said I was. ICE is racially profiling people, arresting them without cause, and deporting them without due process. I happen to be white, so that doesn’t apply in my case. It’s also coincidentally the same reason I feel safe posting a comment like this online. Free speech is being chilled in communities that ice targets, and I feel responsibility to relay what I’m hearing.
ICE also just gunned down a US citizen in the street, and that should scare everyone.
> ICE just gunned down a US citizen in the street though, and that should scare everyone
You make it sound like they executed someone for no reason whatsoever, like the iranian regime just executed 2 000 to 12 000 people in the last few days.
ICE shot someone who wasn't complying with several orders to stop her vehicle, to open her door, while her wife was yelling "go baby go" after having taunted the agents saying "what you gonna do now big boy?".
Definitely doesn't warrant shooting someone but not the smartest thing to do either when armed officials are ordering you to stop.
Now hitting the gas pedal and hitting an agent with your big fat SUV: definitely even less smart than the "what you gonna do now big boy?" and the "go baby go" parts.
You see ICE agents executing in cold blood one US citizen: that's your take on it. My take after seeing the vid from different angle is very different.
A similar story happened in France not long ago: a 17 y/o was illegally (it's illegal to drive a car in France a 17) driving a 400 bhp Mercedes AMG in polish license plate, overtaking traffic on a bus lane and he refused to comply with policemen ordering him to stop. He hit the policeman and got shot.
And socialist France made that drug-dealer, driving a 400 bhp Mercedes AMG at 17 y/o, overtaking the community in a lane dedicated to buses, who already had 15+ prior arrests, an angel.
It's basically the same story: the left using anything it can to create martyrs to push its leftist agenda.
Other see ICE agents have already deported 600 000 illegals which lead to 2 million of illegals self-deporting and, for moving 2.5m+ people, it mostly all went fine.
What is the US to do with the 20m+ illegals still in the country? Ask them all to vote in states that do not require voter ID so that the dems can win again? So that they can open the borders again to millions and millions of illegals?
Your point of view, in your HN echo chamber, is that you're all the white knights. But you're only self-righteous.
> ICE shot someone who wasn't complying with several orders to stop her vehicle, to open her door,
The first one ordered her to leave, the next one told her to get out of her vehicle and reached into her vehicle without a warrent or justification.
Neither had any legal grounds for doing so, at least according to a civil rights lawyer who defended MAGA people deplatformed during the Biden administration.
Traffic enforcement is not within ICE's remit, particularly in this case when wide angle footage with long time frames show traffic passing both cars that are across a single lane.
> Now hitting the gas pedal and hitting an agent with your big fat SUV:
Perhaps avoid the false hyperbole.
> It's basically the same story: the left using anything it can to create martyrs
The "martyrs" are being created by the incompentance and over reach of ICE.
They’ve shot and killed American Citizens
They flashbanged a family of American citizens and put a baby in the hospital
See here, ICE chasing an American citizen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6UWUXkzQVA
How does that boot taste?
I feel like it’s gotta pretty deep into their mouth. Idk how they’re not gagging
Your question is essentially equivalent to "Why are you scared of the Gestapo if you aren't a Jew?"
It's not a coincidence that a winner of the Nobel Prize gifted his medal to the then Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels[1], exactly as María Corina Machado gifted her Nobel medal to Trump. History doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme. If you close your eyes to all these similarities, you're going to be in for a big surprise.
[1]https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/press/press-releases/the-nob...
My question is not an inch near that.
Also this topic is not about a guy who is in the Epstein files, this is about deporting illegal immigrants and keeping the United States safe. Because there are few ICE agents doing things that an untrained cop does, it doesn't apply to all ICE agents.
The woman who got shot thought she was on a movie set, tried to act cool and then attempted to run over an officer.
Also the guy who said 'Illegal immigrants contribute more than an average American citizen' I laughed my ass off while reading your comment.
For the other comment, you can check yourself if you don't believe in fraud. All the documents are accessible thanks to Tim Berners-Lee, the fraud is still active and if there is a nanometer of evidence that your tax money goes to the Somali immigrants' bank account, you need to investigate that.
By the way, Obama deported 3 million immigrants with ICE while he is president but Trump only 900k.
Imagine being in favor of “papers, please” in America
Currently going on? You mean the ones which were prosecuted a few years ago? Or are you talking about that "journalist"'s YouTube video that was hyped by the government to cause misinformed rage?
> The subpoenas suggest that the Justice Department is examining whether Walz’s and Frey’s public statements disparaging the surge of officers and federal actions have amounted to criminal interference in law enforcement work.
The Justice department is literally arguing that free speech is enough to impede an investigation.
This will surely be shot down in court, but this is just all noise to try to interfere in MN's midterm elections.
Sounds similar to this case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States?wprov...
The USA is very vulnerable to culture wars and political division, that stymie any real progress.
https://archive.ph/EPUiZ
I understand people not wanting to follow the news lately and the inclination in just tuning it out. But some things you can't tune out because by tuning it out the conditions of the world can deteriorate from our complacency.
How sad is it to see the US position as a leader building alliances completely fall apart under the current administration? Pretty heartbreaking. The news today about sums up the disappointment.
"Prime Minister Mark Carney, speaking to reporters in Beijing on Friday after making a preliminary deal with China on a range of issues, said Canada’s relationship with the U.S. is 'more multi-faceted' and much deeper than Canada's relationship with China — but noted that ties with China have become more predictable in recent months."
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2221259/carney-reach...
This is a significant escalation and is meant to give the federal government grounds for invoking the Insurrection Act.
He that claimed weaponization of the DOJ is eager to weaponize it [0]
Pure projection, 100% of the time.
> Trump Is Weaponizing the DOJ Just Like He Accused Democrats of Doing
> Throughout the 2024 presidential campaign season, Donald Trump accused his Democratic opponents—President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris—of using the levers of power against him.
> "The Biden regime's weaponization of our system of justice is straight out of the Stalinist Russia horror show," he told rallygoers in March 2023 after being indicted in Manhattan for violating election law. In a September 2024 debate against Harris, Trump even blamed Democrats' rhetoric for the assassination attempt he survived weeks earlier, saying "I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me."
> But now that Trump is firmly ensconced back in office, his administration seems to have no interest in stopping government weaponization. Rather, it seems keen to wield that power for itself. Looking back now on Trump's complaints, it appears less that he was upset than that he was jealous.
Just for the record. 34 felony convictions and adjudicated rape.
[0] https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-weaponizing-doj-just-accuse...
There’s no point in looking into the logic or consistency of Donald’s words.
Just record his actions. Persecute him to the fullest extent of the law. Ignore everything he says.
He’s a broken person, the dictionary definition of a bully, and whose modus operandi is to inflict as much pain on his enemies as possible.
What a load. Run against Trump, have martial law declared, and get criminally investigated by a corrupt DoJ.
Only Trump deserves to be president.
All deplorable all the time. Endless endless boot stomping on the face of Democracy, the constitution, & it's people.
Hopefully this gets thrown out fast, like 70% of what these nasty vipers do.
I'd love to know who downvoted the above comment and why. No-one who believes that democracy in the US is worth preserving can possibly support what's going on at the moment.
A lot of people here are going to be triggered by the word "deplorable" because a mean lady said it years ago.
Pretty accurate descriptor after all this time. She was proven right by their actions.
Kamala as well.